The answer to this question is rather lengthy and will not entirely unfold until the end of this writing.
Concerning this matter of the two Remnant, this point which Yahweh has shown this man is the one thing that is entirely new to man's understanding and sets the second Remnant apart from other remnant teachings. It is also the one point that began the unveiling of all the truths which this man has been honored to see and report. You may have read where I was standing at one end of the service island in the kitchen of the home we built for the care of women and children, and totally out of nowhere, I knew that what Yahweh did at the beginning of the church, He would do again at the end! From that point on, my life has never been the same.
I have read numerous writings on your site so that I know there are numerous scriptures you use to support this. I can see how this can be derived from the description of the two olive trees, or sons of fresh oil, and the lampstand. I can also see how other images could describe the same thing. But what of the holy and devout saints who have lived faithfully before Yahweh in the intervening years. I have no illusions when comparing my own walk to theirs. I know that many of these saints have followed Father with a purer devotion than I have and they have sacrificed far more in their pursuit of obedience.
What you have pointed out here about yourself is precisely the point. Who is worthy of His calling and selection? I am not worthy of His calling. What devotion can a man offer to Yahweh to qualify himself for anything? There is none righteous, not even one, and our righteous deeds are as filthy rags. All men must rely upon His mercy, for we are but man!
How many of the disciples of Yahshua do you think were the cream of the crop and qualified to be His disciples? Out of the billions of people who have been born on this earth, how many were granted the possibility to be His disciples? A few hundred, or no more than a few thousand. What set them apart for this honor? Ability? Faithfulness? But no, Peter proved those to not be the unique qualities of these men. How about anointing or the ability to perform special works? No, in the big picture of all mankind, the two factors that made these particular men available to Yahshua were TIMING and LOCATION. That was it! Time and location were the deciding factors for those men. Paul even declared that he was "untimely born" (1 Cor. 15:8).
Let's look at another testimony to this timing. In Matthew 11:11 we read - "Truly, I say to you, among those born of women there has not arisen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he." What a profound statement! This group associated with John would have included all the patriarchs and prophets of old; yet, Yahshua said that as great as John was, even the least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than John! By the very statement, it is obvious that John, by comparison, was not to be in the kingdom of heaven. No, John died before the kingdom of heaven could be restored by Yahshua and be given to man on Pentecost. What was the determining factor for John's placement? Was it ability or worthiness? Clearly not! The factor that determined John's placement in the works of Yahweh was once again simply a matter of timing.
Even though there were the great prophets like Elijah, Isaiah, Ezekiel, or even Enoch, Noah, or Abraham, what was it that kept them from being in the kingdom of God? That fourth dimension of time!
For now the earth is under the law of time, and like any other factor or law of Yahweh, it too is a sifter and sorter. Neither you nor I nor any other man today could hope to be a part of the first twelve disciples. Time is the prevailing factor that determines that for us. Why wasn't my son thrown into the Nile with all the other children in Goshen? Why wasn't my son slain in the city of Bethlehem? It was a matter of timing and location.
So when you look at the UTTERLY AMAZING opportunity we have now to be a part of the second Remnant and the bride of Yahshua, what gives us this indescribable opportunity over others? Again, it is a matter of timing and location. Does this make us better, more pious, more sacrificing, or more worthy? Need I answer this? No, not at all! We just happen to be present in the timetable of Yahweh when He has predestined these great things to take place. Hebrews 5:4 says - "And no one takes the honor to himself, but receives it when he is called by God, even as Aaron was." This is the time of Yahweh to call out a remnant from the body of Christ, a work that has NEVER been available in the entire history of all mankind.
But this is no different from other opportunities. What made the participation of others possible in past history. Could you walk the sands of the wilderness with Moses and gather manna each day? Could you with shepherd's staff in hand stand over the manger and see the newborn Messiah? Could you reach out and receive the unquestioned healing of your affliction from the One who healed all of those around Him? Of course the answer to these is no! Why? Timing!
Yahweh has a temple with court that He will construct, made of living stones; and men and women throughout time will find their place in that construction. It will be a work that is formed in part by timing. The holy of holies will be the two-part Remnant. This is the intimate place for the bride work. The holy place will be Christianity. These two works are the completed kingdom of God here on earth, or in other words, the church, His temple. But there are a VAST host of other people like John the Baptist who did not live in the kingdom period and will be a part of the outer court. The determining factor once again for each is timing.
Will all the great saints receive great rewards? Without a doubt! But there is an order to Yahweh's works that is determined by timing. Some day when time is done away, maybe all of this will change. But until then, time continues to make a clear imprint on our experiences.
I ask this because as I have read things I have equated Paul's following words to describing the very thing the first remnant was seeking, that is "to attain to a better resurrection" (Hebrews 11).
What was this resurrection that Paul was striving after? Is it not the same thing you have described that the remnant will partake of, the power of an incorruptible life, laying aside this mortality and putting on immortality, putting off this corruption and donning a body that is incorruptible?
Let's consider this matter of resurrection. There is a section of a writing titled Seedtime And Harvest at http://www.remnantbride.com/seedtime/seedtime.3.html that provides more information towards explaining this.
As you point out, Paul was clearly looking to a resurrection. It is interesting that he was not looking for the Elijah work in his time - to ascend alive. His time was a time of death, and it was not in his heart that he would participate in the Elijah work. No, he was in Christianity where death has continued to reign. And as you point out, all saints have looked to the hope of a better resurrection.
Referencing the writing I suggested, the Scriptures bear out three distinct resurrections unto immortality - the first resurrection is the resurrection of the Remnant, the second resurrection is the resurrection of Christianity, and the third resurrection is the resurrection of the rest of mankind, or the world. These are seen as the Passover, Pentecost, and Tabernacles resurrections. Likewise, they are the barley, wheat, and grape resurrections. Or, they are the oxen, sheep, and goat resurrections. Or, they are equally the breast of silver, the loins of bronze, and the legs and feet of clay and iron resurrections, preceded of course by the resurrection of the head of gold, Yahshua, the King of kings.
So the issue is not whether a Christian will enter into resurrection, or will Paul enter into resurrection, or even will Enoch enter into resurrection. All men will enter into resurrection, but even as Paul declared - "each in his own order."
If we object to Yahweh's design in this, we should hear the words of Yahshua when he rebuked Peter for questioning the Father's wisdom and design in the differing destiny of John versus his own - "what is that to you?," He stated. "You follow Me!" (John 21:18-22) Yes, that is what all men are called to do, to follow Him, and Yahweh's placement of us in His kingdom is according to His wisdom and design, not according to ability.
Of course you also know the passage - "The thing molded will not say to the molder, 'Why did you make me like this,' will it? Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use, and another for common use?" (Romans 9:20-21) Yahweh is making vessels, and He places those vessels into His kingdom where He knows best. And the ultimate entrance into the kingdom through resurrection into immortality is Divinely affected by His likewise Divinely directed timing or dispensations.
As I read Ezekiel 44 about the priests of Zadok and the idolatrous priests, I see a distinction being made between them based upon their making a distinction between the holy and the profane, between idolatry and pure devotion to Yahweh. The idolatrous priests are banned from Yahweh's presence and from His most holy things. The faithful priests are given the promise of access to His presence and to all of His most holy things. A distinction is being made and only a remnant receive the promise, but the promise is based upon faithfulness, not upon living in a certain time period.
The distinctions in these two groups are in fact what we have talked about all along and as you have even differentiated - they are the corruption of Christianity and the purifying work of the Remnant. Keep in mind that it is the two-part Remnant who will first enter into resurrection; and once in immortal bodies, they will be delivered from the flesh and will be able to be faithful in all things to Yahweh. This new priesthood order is in contrast to the corrupt priesthood of Christianity that man has known for 2,000 years.
If the Bride is a covering for the body, and if she is called to intercede, then it seems somehow contrary to judge that which we are interceding for. I know that Abigail could be said to have done this as she confessed that Nabal was a son of belial, and she interceded for him, but she did not call for Nabal's judgment. She confessed his character, but she did not renounce him by bringing a condemning judgment.
Watchman Nee in his book "Spiritual Authority" spoke of the danger of reviling. He said that discernment is one thing, and I think Abigail rightly discerned Nabal's character, but discernment with a condemning judgment becomes reviling. We are told that when Michael contended with Satan for the body of Moses that he did not revile Satan. He spoke no judgment of his own against him. He said, "The Lord rebuke you." I am concerned that this renouncing of Christianity goes beyond discernment and the appropriate action of coming out and being separate, and that it may enter into the arena of reviling.
Yahshua may be brought to judge His children, but His heart still yearns for them. I know you see this, and I am probably preaching to the choir here, but I was concerned with the statement against the church, or Christianity. Many more will come out, and we are to snatch some as a branch from the burning, hating even the garment stained by the flesh, but we need to guard against reviling.
I know it is not your intent to revile in this statement, and as I read the rest of the article I saw clearly that you discerned the Bride's position of intercession. I just have a hard time reconciling the two.
I agree with you entirely in your concern for not reviling the body. The body of Christ is indeed the work of Yahweh, though it be entirely corrupted. The difficulty one faces is to reconcile Yahweh's own assessment of this work, and our own attitudes. In the testimony of Nabal, we see Yahweh's assessment that the body of Christ is "harsh and evil in its dealings" and "worthless." This worthlessness of Christianity is provided a second witness in Jeremiah 13 where we find that a linen loincloth that was hid in the cleft of the rock (like Moses in Exodus 33:22) became "totally worthless." When Yahweh characterizes the works of the body of Christ as "worthless," we are wise to recognize this; but, as you point out, we must not revile that body. We must be wise so as to come out of that body, but like David who waited for his time to come to the throne, we too cannot take action against the body.
It is neither the place nor the power for the bride to directly tear down the body of Christ as a whole; that will be performed by Yahshua. However, it is our purpose to destroy that work in the minds and in the lives of a Remnant people. They must see the worthlessness of what they are in, and come out. Like the walls of Jericho that had to come down, or like the giant Goliath who had to come down, there are beliefs in our minds that must come down. This is the work I wish to perform, and must!
But even so, our hearts must be understanding and not critical about Christianity. Although concerning the issue of truth, like the Jews to Paul, Christianity is my enemy, even so we must see that they are blinded by Satan and do not know what they are doing. We must have a heart to forgive and cover them. The people you encountered who found a remnant truth yet "referred to others who had not seen their light in the most scatological terms and they contended that it would be the glory that unified the remnant, not love," and who spoke "hatefully of those still in the body who had not yet seen the light," did not possess the entire Remnant truth. In 1994 when I saw Yahweh's plan to severally judge the body of Christ in wrath, I too had a harsh and sarcastic attitude toward them; but when I went through my own personal Jonah experience and saw that Yahweh was going to have mercy instead, my attitude changed. Yahweh loves His body, and whom He loves He disciplines and scourges; but we cannot give any place to being rude, mean, or sarcastic towards the body, lest we find ourselves being so to Yahshua. The body of Christ is indeed His body.
If we are to conclude that the leavening, the tares and the wheat, apply to separate attributes within a single individual, and then we are to conclude that all of those during the church age were leavened for all died, then how can you make a distinction among the first remnant, for they all died as well. Did this not prove that they too were leavened? Didn't Peter show signs of being a mixture? How then can we make a distinction between him and later saints who struggled with the flesh, but pursued God to the very end, even giving their lives? How can we say Peter or his contemporaries are a part of the remnant, but later saints are excluded? Is their any scripture that reveals that a fundamental shift in the kingdom and Yahweh's rules of attainment to a better resurrection changed with the stoning of Stephen?
Concerning the first Remnant, yes, they became a leavened work as well, and there is an intercessoral reason for this. First, let us look at some testimonies that reveal this.
The original garden of God was Yahweh's pattern for the kingdom of God. What took place in that pattern/garden testifies to what we are talking about. You will notice that Satan first tempted the bride, the woman, and "leavened" her, before "leavening" the man. Eve was the first to enter into the tree of the knowledge of good and evil where she encountered the deceiving serpent and ate of the forbidden fruit. After eating it, she then turned to the man and gave him the forbidden fruit to eat, which he did.
This is precisely what happened in the kingdom of God. The first Remnant came first into the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and ate of its fruit. The first Remnant is the first part of the two-part bride. She was the Leah who had weak eyes, and not the Rachel, who will be the second Remnant. But after eating this kingdom fruit, the first Remnant then gave it to the masculine body of Christ, and they next ate of it.
This identical truth is pictured at the Passover meal in John 13. Yahshua told His disciples that one of them would betray Him. How was that one to be revealed? He took a piece of the unleavened Passover barley bread, dipped it into the wine, and handed it to Judas. By that solitary act, Satan entered into Judas and immediately he went out into the night to betray Yahshua.
Here again we see the first Remnant, the unleavened Passover barley bread, being leavened - dipped into the fermented wine - and given to the body of Christ (Christianity), and Satan entering into them and betraying Yahshua by their actions - a kiss, or saying they love Him, yet turning the body over to the afflictors.
Do you see the same pattern? And why did this have to happen? Because the first Remnant had to identify with the body so that when they are delivered, it insures that the body will be delivered as well. Have you ever noticed that the poles of the ark of the covenant extended into the holy place in Solomon's temple - 1 Kings 8:8? Why? Because the first Remnant had to extend into Christianity so that there could be this vital intercessoral tie. If you look at the dispensations of Yahweh at each 2,000 year (or forty Jubilee) mark, they are tied together by the lives of Abraham and Yahshua. This tie insures an intercessoral link so that salvation is uninterrupted through all mankind. I would suggest you read the entire writing, Seedtime And Harvest, at http://www.remnantbride.com/seedtime/seedtime.1.html that addresses the vital importance of the work of the first Remnant (and Christianity as well).
This matter of the importance of each part of the two-part Remnant, brings us back to the separateness of these two distinct parts from not only the 2,000 year period of Christianity, but of course from all of those before the church period. You have already noted what is said in these writings regarding the two sons of fresh oil, a testimony which clearly identifies two works specifically at the first of the church and at the close - the two olive trees. Let us now briefly consider the testimony of the two cherub that cover the ark of the covenant.
In Kyle Nixon's writing at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RemnantBride/message/293 , we find that the bride is actually the replacement for fallen Lucifer. In Ezekiel 28:14 we read that he was "the anointed cherub who covers;" yet in the ark of the covenant we see that there are two cherub who cover, not one. Why? Because the solitary "cherub who covers," or Satan, looses his rights to cover, and those rights are given to the two-part bride, or the two covering cherub. These two cherub were positioned at the two opposite ends of the ark, and their wings spread upward and extended over and covered the mercy seat.
It has also been noted in these writings that the bride must become the covering of the body of Christ. This is precisely what we see once again in that the wings of the two cherub located at the two ends of the ark extend upward and toward each other to become the covering of the period between them - Christianity. And as Kyle points out, the "single hoof" work of solitaire Satan who covers is unclean, and must be replaced by the "split hoof" two-part work of the two covering cherub.
This may be hard for you to take, but Satan has been the covering cherub over the body of Christ for 2,000 years. Keep in mind that the body of Christ has been located on an earth that belongs to Satan - he has legal rights to and is the ruler of this world. Thus while the kingdom of God is here on an earth that belongs to Satan, it is under his covering. And what does he do to it? He deceives it, corrupts it, afflicts it, entwines it in the cares of this world, and in the end takes it to the place which he has the power thereof - to death (even as he did with the Yahshua's own body). All in all he dearths it, which will in the end bring his ruin - "in the dearth of people is a prince's ruin," even the prince of this world.
So Satan, who has been the covering cherub over the church for 2,000 years on this earth, will be replaced with the two-part Remnant, who are those who are separate from Christianity but still a part of the church period. Keep in mind, this entire matter of Yahweh working out salvation for mankind is once again under the order and constraints of the fourth dimension of time. The church is Yahweh's way of bringing salvation to all men - those before the church, as well as the two parts formed in the church. And again, this and all the works of Yahweh are designed with the sifting and sorting element of time still in affect. Yahweh uses the now, the present, to continue to work out His salvation for man.
This matter of Satan preceding the two-part work of the Spirit of Yahweh, is testified to after the flood when a repeat "garden" testimony was carried out. (See Chapter 6 of the writing, Coverings.) We find that the first bird that Noah sent out was the raven. The raven is the smartest of all the birds, it is black, and it clearly represents Satan. Recall that we said the first Remnant were leavened by the serpent, Satan; in like testimony the ravens fed Elijah during his first place of hiding by the brook that dried up. Elijah could not stay at that place and went to his second Remnant place of hiding - with the poor and starving widow where they were miraculously fed.
Did that raven that was released from the ark bring anything back to Noah? Absolutely not! He "flew here and there." So, this "covering cherub" had to be replaced by another covering that would succeed. Was that next covering successful on its first journey? No! The dove of the Spirit was sent out and returned, finding "no resting place for the sole of her foot." The first Remnant could not bring forth the perfect kingdom that the Spirit desires and men desperately need. So, Noah waited seven days (the mark of the beast period of Christianity) and released the dove of the Spirit again. Was the dove successful the second time? Yes! What did the dove of the Spirit bring back into the ark? The son of fresh oil olive leaf. These two sending forths of the dove testify of the former and latter rains of the Spirit that bring forth specifically the first and second Remnants from the period of the church. The third time the dove goes out, it finds a place to reside on the earth - the two Remnant enter into immortality and the Spirit of Yahweh can finally reside on a people.
But notice again that the two-part work of the dove replaced the single work of the raven. The two-part Remnant will replace single Satan as the covering cherub over Christianity. Obviously there are limitations to any prophetic picture, but what has to be noted here is what Yahweh is telling us in it. Satan was sent out first as the covering of the church, but he will be replaced by the two-part work of the former and latter rain Remnant. (Further information on this issue of Satan's role and his replacement, as well as the prophetic testimony of the raven, can be considered in the writing - The Raven.)
And per your question about others being brought into these two Remnants, remember that these two works are formed specifically by the former rain and the latter rain. If a person is not here on this earth to be under either of these rains (either be sleep or having not yet been born), then they do not qualify to be in the two resulting works. Again, what is it to us that Yahweh ordains these things? We are but vessels placed here on this earth with the order and constraints of the fourth dimension, and as mere vessels we cannot question either His choice or His design.
Clearly, we are told that those in the two-thirds part of the church are "cut off dead" (Zechariah 13:8). What are they cut off from? If they are dead, then they cannot be here to be under the latter rain when it is poured out upon us who have the promise of John to "remain until I come."
You will recall that I said Yahweh always has overlaps to tie the work of salvation in man together? And you will recall that after Yahshua's resurrection, many saints came out of the tombs and appeared to many - Matthew 27:52-53? I assume those saints stayed around to be under the former rain. If they were placed back into earthly bodies (for they could not have been in immortal bodies, for the first resurrection had not yet occurred), they would have been the exceptions to all of the others who were already in the grave. They would have been a remnant themselves who came forth from time past to qualify under the former rain, obviously entering into this work as a promise to all men before them that they too will come into resurrection in their own order. Who were those who came forth? We don't know. Could Yahweh do this again with the latter rain? If He needed to. But they would have to come back into earthly bodies and qualify under the covering of the latter rain. If there are any dead Christians or OT saints to be in the second Remnant, they will have to come out from the dead and get under the covering and work of the latter rain. And obviously that possibility is entirely at the discretion and order of Yahweh. He is the Creator of all things!
I think this is all that can be said at this point on these matters. I hope this provides ample evidence to you to see this sifting and sorting work of His Spirit under the order of the fourth dimension of time. We live in the most wonderful time in the history of all mankind, and we face an opportunity that escapes our imagination, and particularly any sense of personal worthiness. Yahweh chooses the foolish, the weak, the base to shame the strong and the wise, and His Remnant can find their place in His will knowing who and what they truly are. "'Do not fear, you worm Jacob, you men of Israel; I will help you,' declares Yahweh,' and your Redeemer is the Holy One of Israel'" (Isaiah 41:14). The promises surrounding that verse are wonderful!
"This sentence is by the decree of the watchers,
And the decision is a command of the holy ones,
In order that the living may know
That the Most High is ruler over the realm of mankind,
And bestows it on whom He wishes,
And sets over it the lowliest of men" (Daniel 4:17).
Blessings to you my brother!